The Secret Signature
Introduced 1977
A microscopic 'CARTIER' hidden within the Roman numerals, present on every genuine post-1977 dial.
Cartier's tonneau-shaped Tortue of 1912: a thin gold Extra Plate in the 1970s and a single-button chronograph in the Collection Privée from 1998.
Antiquorum writes that the Tortue, released in 1912, is a variation of the Tonneau that Louis Cartier created in 1906, and that it changed in several ways during the 1920s, among them the single-button chronograph of 1928.
Phillips writes that Louis Cartier designed the Tortue in 1912 and that it was named tortue à pattes, turtle on legs, for its likeness to the animal's shape.
The Ref. 96069 is a thin, hand-wound Tortue in 18k yellow gold, about 26.5 × 34.5 mm and 5 mm thick, with a white Paris dial of twelve black Roman numerals, a railroad minute track and the secret signature in the VII. Craft & Tailored dates its example to the 1970s, says collectors know the reference as the Extra Plate or Extra Thin, and identifies the movement as the ultra-thin Frédéric Piguet Cal. 21.
A 23 × 31 mm lady's Tortue with a case number beginning 96069, dated to the 1980s, has also been sold, so measure the case: it may be a smaller model.
Phillips writes that Cartier introduced the Tortue Monopoussoir in 1998 in the Collection Privée Cartier Paris, which was available until 2008. It is a 34 × 43 mm single-button chronograph, hand-wound on the Cartier Cal. 045MC with 22 jewels, developed by THA, the workshop of Denis Flageollet, Vianney Halter and François-Paul Journe.
The Ref. 2356 is the yellow gold version, with black Roman numerals on a silvered guilloché dial, and the Ref. 2396 the white gold one, with the rosette guilloché dial and enlarged XII that Phillips describes. Both have running seconds at 9, a 30-minute counter at 3, blued steel hands and a sapphire display back.
Dated examples run from a 2396 with a Cartier certificate of November 1998 to examples of about 2005 and, for a 2396B, about 2008.
The Collection Privée also had a Tortue without the chronograph. The Ref. 2496, also cataloged as 2496C and 2496E, is 34 × 43 mm in 18k yellow gold, hand-wound on the Cartier Cal. 430 MC (some catalogs give the Cal. 437 MC), with a silvered guilloché dial and black Roman numerals; dated examples run from about 1999 to 2005.
A pink gold version is also recorded beside the yellow and white gold ones, each with its own dial. Auction houses catalog the yellow gold watch as 2356, 2356B and 2356E, with case numbers in CC and CE series, and the white gold one as 2396 and 2396B; no source consulted explains the letters.
Check the tonneau case for over-polishing and dents, and compare the dial with documented examples of the reference: crisp printing and, on the 96069, the secret signature in the VII and PARIS at 6. On a Collection Privée chronograph, the single button should start, stop and reset the chronograph cleanly, the movement should be signed Cartier 045MC with 22 jewels, and the 18k gold Cartier clasp should match the case; Antiquorum has offered two yellow gold 2356s on pink gold clasps.
Ref. 2396 · c. 1998–2008



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The Ref. 2396, the white gold Tortue Monopoussoir of the Collection Privée Cartier Paris: a 34 × 43 mm 18k white gold single-button chronograph, hand-wound on the Cartier Cal. 045MC with 22 jewels, developed by THA, with running seconds at 9 and a 30-minute counter at 3. Phillips describes a rosette guilloché dial with an enlarged XII and has offered examples with Cartier certificates dated 1998 and 1999. It is the white gold sibling of the yellow gold Ref. 2356.
5 documented references across 2 eras
| Reference | |
|---|---|
| Ref. 1071218k Yellow Gold · Manual-wind | |
![]() | Ref. 9606918k Yellow Gold · Manual |
| Reference | |
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![]() | Ref. 235618k Yellow Gold · Manual-wind |
![]() | Ref. 239618k white gold · Cartier Caliber 045MC (developed by THA: Journe, Flageollet, Halter) |
| Ref. 249618k Yellow Gold · Manual-wind |
Choose your reference, set its condition, and see what it's likely to bring. Each estimate uses sales of that exact reference where there are enough of them.
The typical public example: light wear, original-looking dial, runs well. This is the baseline.
Median of 5 sales of Ref. 2356, Nov 2023 to Nov 2026.
Market value is what watches like this sell for publicly, fees included. A dealer buying to resell pays less, because they carry the cost and risk of the resale.
From November 2023 to November 2026, 5 counted sales of Ref. 2356 ran from $29,000 to $54,250, with a middle price of $36,000. The most recent was $54,250 at Phillips Geneva in November 2026.
| Date | Ref. | Where | Details | Counts as | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nov 2026 | 2356E | Phillips GenevaAuction | The Geneva Watch Auction: XXIV, Session I, 7 Nov 2026 (lots 1-107). Lot 83. Tortue Monopoussoir CPCP, 34 x 43 mm, 18k yellow gold, cal. 045 MC manual wind, case 0016 CE, c. 2000. Cartier wallet with certificate and service booklet, manual, pouch, two fitted boxes, outer packaging. Est. CHF 20-40k. Phillips 'Sold For' includes the buyer's premium; page links only to the Conditions of Sale. | This reference | CHF 44,450≈ $54,250 |
| Apr 2026 | 2356 | Monaco Legend AuctionsAuction | c.1999, case 0084CC, guarantee and booklet | This reference | EUR 32,500≈ $38,000 |
| Sep 2024 | 2356 | Phillips Hong KongAuction | Online sale. c.1999, case 0198CC, excellent, no box/papers listed | This reference | HK$228,600≈ $29,000 |
| Nov 2023 | 2356 | Phillips GenevaAuction | c.1999, case 0084CC (same watch resold at Monaco Legend Apr 2026) | This reference | CHF 27,940≈ $31,000 |
| Nov 2023 | 2356B | Phillips Hong KongAuction | Dated c.2011 by certificate (late production), CPCP box | This reference | HK$279,400≈ $36,000 |
| Jun 2023 | 2356 | Phillips New YorkAuction | The New York Watch Auction: EIGHT, lot 61, 10-11 Jun 2023. Tortue Monopoussoir CPCP Ref. 2356, case no. 0227CC, 34 x 43 mm, 18k yellow gold, manual cal. 045 MC, 22 jewels, circa 1999; Cartier certificate, red leather presentation box, wallet, literature and outer packaging. Printed 'Sold for' $38,100; the lot page does not say whether the figure includes the buyer's premium. Est. $15-30k. | Not countedolder than the three-year window | USD 38,100 |
| Dec 2021 | 2356B | Phillips New YorkAuction | c.1999 | Not countedolder than the three-year window | USD 47,880 |
| Sep 2021 | 2356 | Sotheby's Geneva (via Collector Square)Auction | case 0249CC | Not countedolder than the five-year window | CHF 35,280≈ $40,350 |
| Dec 2020 | 2356 | Phillips New YorkAuction | c.2003, full set, serviced 2020 | Not countedolder than the five-year window | USD 50,400 |
Sales from November 2023 to November 2026, or from the last five years for a reference with fewer than three in that time. Only sales that name a reference count toward its estimate; sales of the rest of its version are shown for comparison and never folded in. Auction prices include the buyer's premium unless a row says hammer; dealer prices are the price at sale. Currency figures are converted near the sale date. Some figures are as reported by the auction house's own articles or the press and are rounded. Rows via Collector Square come from its public results index and should be confirmed at the auction house. Results that some houses show only to signed-in visitors are read from the house's own page with an Archiva account. The condition and option adjustments, the expected bid (75 to 85% of market value) and the auction range (62 to 72%) are working assumptions, to be replaced by Archiva's own bids as they come in. A sale far above or below the other sales of its reference is listed but not counted, so one unusual result can't pull the estimate. An estimate from public results, not an appraisal.
What every buyer, inheritor, and first-time collector should know.
Introduced 1977
A microscopic 'CARTIER' hidden within the Roman numerals, present on every genuine post-1977 dial.
Varies by origin and era
A Cartier case carries the Cartier signature, a reference and serial number on later pieces, and small struck marks for the metal and the case maker. Which marks appear depends on where the case was made: an eagle's head on Paris gold, JC and a date letter on London cases, the Helvetia head on Swiss 18k before 1995. The hallmarks guide shows what each one means.
Varies by era and model
Cartier sourced movements from various Swiss manufacturers throughout history, including Jaeger-LeCoultre, Frédéric Piguet, ETA, and in-house production. Knowing the correct caliber for a specific reference is essential for identifying the watch and establishing provenance.
A Cartier hallmark since the early 20th century
The blue sapphire (or spinel on less precious models) cabochon crown is a Cartier signature. Original crowns show consistent color saturation and are set flush with the crown body. Replacements often show misalignment or incorrect stone dimensions that reveal themselves under magnification.
Check the clasp first
Cartier bracelets carry their own reference markings and the deployment clasp should bear the Cartier name and logo. Aftermarket bracelets are extremely common on vintage pieces, so checking that the clasp is original and that reference numbers match is crucial to the overall picture.
Patina tells the story
Vintage Cartier dials develop characteristic aging: cream dials warm to ivory, lacquer dials may develop fine crazing, and applied indices can show legible wear patterns. Understanding acceptable versus concerning dial aging is key to valuing a vintage piece accurately.
Direct answers about the Cartier Tortue, drawn from the reference records below.
Read the reference on the case back and measure the case, then confirm the model and its date on the reference pages before any servicing.
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